Dr. Anthony Fauci, the government’s top infectious disease expert, in a new interview addressed the times he’s been forced to contradict President Trump about the U.S. response to the novel coronavirus outbreak, saying that he just wants to “get the facts out.”
“I don’t want to embarrass him,” Fauci, who has become one of the public faces of the administration’s response, told The New York Times in an interview published on Saturday. “I don’t want to act like a tough guy, like I stood up to the president. I just want to get the facts out. And instead of saying, ‘You’re wrong,’ all you need to do is continually talk about what the data are and what the evidence is.”
The comments came as President Trump continues to tout an anti-malaria drug as a coronavirus cure, despite health officials’ warnings that not enough is known about its effects to draw a conclusion. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has yet to approve the drug’s use to treat COVID-19.
Fauci clarified some of Trump’s comments about the drug on Friday after the president said he had a “good feeling” about it. He said that hydroxychloroquine could not be used to prevent COVID-19.
“Many of the things out there are what I have called ‘anecdotal reports,'” he told reporters at a press briefing. “The information that you’re referring to specifically is anecdotal. It was not done in a controlled clinical trial, so you really can’t make any definitive statement about it.”
He reiterated those remarks on Saturday, the same day that Trump tweeted that “HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine.”
“I’m not totally sure what the president was referring to,” Fauci said. “Many things you hear out there are what I call anecdotal reports. They may be true, but they’re anecdotal. .. If you really want to definitively know if something works, you have to do the kind of trial that you get the good information with.”
Fauci acknowledged to The Times that he has been telling Trump things he doesn’t want to hear and that he’s “publicly had to say something different with what he states.” But he said that Trump has listened to his remarks, noting that he’s a “smart guy.”
“He’s not a dummy. So he doesn’t take it — certainly up to now — he doesn’t take it in a way that I’m confronting him in any way,” he said. “He takes it in a good way.”
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Top health official on differing with Trump: "I just want to get the facts out" https://t.co/VdPRSNWVWQ pic.twitter.com/dLuApgrptl
— The Hill (@thehill) March 22, 2020
Fauci on Trump: “The next time they sit down with him and talk about what he’s going to say, they will say, by the way, Mr. President, be careful about this and don't say that. But I can't jump in front of the microphone and push him down.“ https://t.co/SboIxmMWbv
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) March 23, 2020
Dr Fauci, I think someone HAS to step up, grab the microphone and speak the truth to the American people. I am stunned that everyone stands behind him and lets him lie and blather on … that’s not helpful in a time of crisis. We need everyone to step up! #leadorgetoutoftheway https://t.co/2zGmCqDAz2
— Andrew Zimmern (@andrewzimmern) March 23, 2020
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